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    Default Anybody find a better syncing solution for EF than DropBox?

    I really love EF (as I've posted in numerous places) and use it multiple times a day. Finally I can actually find miscellaneous pieces of information and important files when I need them.

    The big shortcoming to me, as we get more and more mobile, is the lack of syncing between, say, my iPhone and iPad.

    I do keep my library in my DropBox. And the files do sync. But it's really almost a useless solution because searching the DropBox to find info in the EF library doesn't work well. Actually "not work well" is an understatement. I can almost never find anything in EF doing a mobile DropBox search.

    So I was wondering. Does anybody have any better solutions to syncing EF libraries with their mobile devices?

    Michael - I'd pay extra for mobile EF versions. :)

    Thanks,

    doug

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    Default better syncing than dropbox

    Hi,

    I agree wholeheartedly. I love my iPad - mainly because it is so portable. I currently use Docs2Go to sync my MS Office docs and that works well but I would love to e able to sync rtf, rtfd and eml files as well.

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    Default Still hoping for a better syncing solution than DropBox!

    I don't suppose anybody's found a better way, have they?

    With DropBox you just can't search your EagleFiler contents or easy change contents. So when I need to make things portable I end up putting notes into EverNote.

    For many reasons I generally prefer EagleFiler over EverNote (standard files, maintains imported file dates, more flexible with allowed file types, great Mac client, etc.).

    But I have a Mac, iPad and iPhone and would really love some practical syncing solution for EagleFiler and don't think DropBox is it.

    Any better ideas would be welcome.

    And like I posted originally, Michael, I would gladly pay extra for an iPad/iPhone app for EagleFiler!

    Thanks,

    doug

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglerner View Post
    I don't suppose anybody's found a better way, have they?

    With DropBox you just can't search your EagleFiler contents or easy change contents.
    Not with the Dropbox app. However, you can use Notesy to search and edit plain text files in an EagleFiler library on Dropbox. You might also like PlainText or one of the other iPhone text editors that lets you choose the folder on Dropbox.

    Quote Originally Posted by douglerner View Post
    And like I posted originally, Michael, I would gladly pay extra for an iPad/iPhone app for EagleFiler!
    Glad to hear that. I hope to be able to offer an iOS app in the future.

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    I've only tried DropText so far. But the problem is that it only works well with plain text files and the text files created with EagleFilter are rich text.

    I saw your page of recommended editors and your personal review. You didn't mention how well they work with EagleFilter though.

    A friend highly recommends Nebulous Notes, which you also listed. And they have a free version, so I think I'll test with that and see if it works better than DropText.

    Thanks,

    doug

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    Answering my own question, Nebulous doesn't seem to work well with EagleFiler files either, because they are .rtf.

    doug

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglerner View Post
    I've only tried DropText so far. But the problem is that it only works well with plain text files and the text files created with EagleFilter are rich text.
    EagleFiler gives you the choice of creating rich text or plain text files, and you can convert between the two formats. I know there are some iOS apps that can edit Microsoft Word format, but I’m not sure about RTF.

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    When importing (like selecting text in an email and using Service > Import to EagleFilter) is there a way to import as plain text?

    Thanks,

    doug

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglerner View Post
    When importing (like selecting text in an email and using Service > Import to EagleFilter) is there a way to import as plain text?
    Not currently, although that’s a feature I’d like to add.

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    Default Still frustrated over a lack of a usable sync

    DropBox search doesn't work well, and doesn't seem to work with EagleFiler at all. That's the reason I've been scratching my head over the best way to sync. I don't know why it's the recommended syncing solution for EagleFiler. You can't find anything using DropBox search with it. :)

    I am concerned about the privacy thing, so the best solution would be a wifi or even tethered sync directly with my iMac.

    But if it has to be in the cloud, my main concern is actually being able to find and read notes. DropBox and EagleFiler, the recommended solution, just doesn't work because you can't find stuff.

    At least with Evernote it actually finds things. That's why even though I continue to use EagleFiler as my main database for "all sorts of scraps of info" when I go out and need to refer to the data I end up creating extra Evernote notes so the info is easily accessible to me on my iPhone and iPad.

    I just wonder why everybody is so blase about keeping their personal data online...

    I wish EagleFiler just had an iOS app that did wifi syncing - something conceptually like Bento and FileMaker to Go does.

    doug

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglerner View Post
    DropBox search doesn't work well, and doesn't seem to work with EagleFiler at all. That's the reason I've been scratching my head over the best way to sync. I don't know why it's the recommended syncing solution for EagleFiler. You can't find anything using DropBox search with it. :)
    Dropbox is not the recommended solution, although in my personal opinion it’s the cloud service that works the best (especially between Macs). The Dropbox app works fine for viewing the contents of an EagleFiler library and for searching an individual folder by filename. There are various other apps that can also view the contents of a Dropbox, and some can edit different file types. So it’s important to distinguish between Dropbox the service and Dropbox the app. Granted, it would be great if Dropbox offered full content searching, but it currently doesn’t, and I’m not aware of a similar service/app that does (aside from the Dropbox-aware text editors).

    Quote Originally Posted by douglerner View Post
    I am concerned about the privacy thing, so the best solution would be a wifi or even tethered sync directly with my iMac.
    The How can I put my library on my iPhone? page lists a variety of non-cloud options.

    Quote Originally Posted by douglerner View Post
    I wish EagleFiler just had an iOS app that did wifi syncing - something conceptually like Bento and FileMaker to Go does.
    I hear you.

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    Default Another Eaglefiler/Dropbox Question

    I use Notebooks (Alfons Schmid) on iPad and iPhone. Notebooks syncs .txt files to Dropbox into a "Notebooks" folder. Is it possible to import these files into EagleFiler in some way that would leave the Notebooks folder structure intact? Can EagleFiler link to folders that have not been physically imported and manage their content?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lenspixels View Post
    Can EagleFiler link to folders that have not been physically imported and manage their content?
    No, although you can use symlinks to let it manage folders outside of the library folder. Another option (not sure whether Notebooks supports this, but some other iOS editors do) would be to pick a folder inside the EagleFiler library as the “root” folder for the text files.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglerner View Post
    When importing (like selecting text in an email and using Service > Import to EagleFilter) is there a way to import as plain text?
    EagleFiler 1.5.7 adds the PrefersRichText esoteric preference, which lets you control whether text is imported as plain text or RTF.

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    Default Update?

    Michael,

    Is Dropbox still most recommended for synching EF? I already use DB.

    Also, is Notesy still your noter of choice for accessing text files on iPhone and iPad? I see you preferred it two years ago: http://mjtsai.com/blog/2011/05/17/co...xt-editors-v3/

    Thanks,

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Bowman View Post
    Is Dropbox still most recommended for synching EF?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Bowman View Post
    Also, is Notesy still your noter of choice for accessing text files on iPhone and iPad?
    These days I prefer WriteUp.

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    Default If there is a better option, it isn't BitTorrent Sync

    I tried syncing my EF library across two Macs (each with read and write permissions from btsync) and an Ubuntu laptop (read-only permissions), with an always-on Ubuntu server (also read-only) replicating the Dropbox functionality. It worked fine for a while but as soon as I made the easy mistake of shutting down my laptop without checking that the upstream sync was complete, btsync corrupted my library.

    Don't try this at home. This is the second time I've tried syncing through btsync… The first time was when the software was even less mature.

    I may give it another shot, but this time, syncing only the /Files subfolder, not the library file itself. Or maybe I'll make do with read-only copies on the portable machines. Or maybe I'll just put my library on a USB stick. Come to think of it, that might be the best option.

    I don't trust Dropbox, and EF loses too much speed access libraries through the network, so Bonjour/NAS solutions are out, as well.

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    Default Keeping the Thread Alive - Best Options for Dropbox Connections

    Hi Michael -

    Curious if you have gone back to Notesy or moved to another choice on iOS. I've tried several and none really seems to give me what I want.

    F

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankns View Post
    Curious if you have gone back to Notesy or moved to another choice on iOS.
    I really like Editorial.

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    Default Best Dropbox Option - try Day One

    When out and about with my iPhone and wanting to record something for Eaglefiler I enter the information into Day One which I've been using now for a few years. I also have Day One on my Mac at home and the synch using their service is fast and reliable. I therefore highlight the entry on Day One on the Mac that I'd previously entered on my iPhone and simply bring it into Eaglefiler using the service shortcut - Shift-Option-Command-C . This way I have the same information available on my iPhone (in DayOne) for searching as I have on my Mac in Eaglefiler. Of course I realize this is not quite the synchronization that people are asking for but it certainly works for me although of course it does involve the added expense of the Day One apps.

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