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    Default Drone setup with MailMate as primary email client

    Hi,

    I recently switched mail provider and am less then pleased with their SpamAssassin configuration. Looking into SpamSieve as an alternative and have a question:

    I access my imap account using MailMate on my Mac, Dispatch on iOS and K9 on Android. Incoming spam is in the hundreds per day, so I obviously want to set up SpamSieve with a Drone.

    When I read the manual, I get the impression that only Mail.app or Outlook can be used as a Drone. If that's correct, what do you recommend? Running Mail.app and MailMate in parallel or are there any other options?

    /Anders

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    Quote Originally Posted by thoresson View Post
    When I read the manual, I get the impression that only Mail.app or Outlook can be used as a Drone. If that's correct, what do you recommend? Running Mail.app and MailMate in parallel or are there any other options?
    That’s correct. Currently, only Apple Mail and Outlook can do the drone setup. Do you have rules in MailMate, such that you would want the spam filtered out before the MailMate rules see the other messages? If so, perhaps the answer is to use MailMate with SpamSieve as normal, but to also set up the remote training rule (but not the regular SpamSieve rule) in Apple Mail. In other words, Apple Mail would only be responsible for monitoring the TrainSpam and TrainGood mailboxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Tsai View Post
    Do you have rules in MailMate, such that you would want the spam filtered out before the MailMate rules see the other messages? If so, perhaps the answer is to use MailMate with SpamSieve as normal, but to also set up the remote training rule (but not the regular SpamSieve rule) in Apple Mail. In other words, Apple Mail would only be responsible for monitoring the TrainSpam and TrainGood mailboxes.
    No, no client side filters in MailMate. But your idea with just the remote training rule in Mail.app and only have Mail.app subscribe to the inbox and TrainSpam and TrainGood mailboxes are the best setup for me anyway? Or what other options would I have?

    /Anders

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    But on second thought, if Mail.app does *not* run the regular SpamSieve rule, then no spam filtering will take part when I'm away from my computer? Or am I missing something here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thoresson View Post
    No, no client side filters in MailMate. But your idea with just the remote training rule in Mail.app and only have Mail.app subscribe to the inbox and TrainSpam and TrainGood mailboxes are the best setup for me anyway? Or what other options would I have?
    You could potentially run the regular SpamSieve rule in Apple Mail as well, instead of having MailMate process the incoming messages.

    Quote Originally Posted by thoresson View Post
    But on second thought, if Mail.app does *not* run the regular SpamSieve rule, then no spam filtering will take part when I'm away from my computer? Or am I missing something here?
    I thought you had one Mac running both Apple Mail and MailMate. In that case, it does not matter which one is running SpamSieve, but one of them must be if you want to have filtering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Tsai View Post
    You could potentially run the regular SpamSieve rule in Apple Mail as well, instead of having MailMate process the incoming messages. I thought you had one Mac running both Apple Mail and MailMate. In that case, it does not matter which one is running SpamSieve, but one of them must be if you want to have filtering.
    Yes, just one Mac where I probably will switch to MailMate as my primary email client. The only reason to keep Mail.app running would be so that the computer also can work as a Drone.

    But for that to happen, Mail.app must be do the spam filtering, right? But does that mean that I'll also have to use Mail.app to tag missed mails as Junk/Non-junk as well?

    To recap:

    One Macbook Air, where I use MailMate.
    One iPhone, one iPad and one Android phone from which I do email while away from my computer.
    Today, I noticed that as soon as my MBA sleeps, SpamSieve processing stop as well, filling my inbox with spam. As a result, doing my mail on my mobile devices after an hour or two becomes rather time consuming.

    So my question is: If I still want to use MailMate as my main email client on my MBA, what options do I have for spam processing even when my computer sleeps?

    Thanks,
    Anders

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    Quote Originally Posted by thoresson View Post
    The only reason to keep Mail.app running would be so that the computer also can work as a Drone.

    But for that to happen, Mail.app must be do the spam filtering, right?
    No, you could use Mail just to monitor the TrainSpam and TrainGood mailboxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by thoresson View Post
    But does that mean that I'll also have to use Mail.app to tag missed mails as Junk/Non-junk as well?
    No, you could do that from MailMate (using its commands) or by moving the messages to the special training mailboxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by thoresson View Post
    So my question is: If I still want to use MailMate as my main email client on my MBA, what options do I have for spam processing even when my computer sleeps?
    Well, the issue there is that Apple Mail is the only mail program that can operate during Power Nap. If you choose to use Apple Mail to do the filtering, you would probably have to turn off SpamSieve in MailMate, but you could still use MailMate to move the messages to the Train mailboxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Tsai View Post
    No, you could use Mail just to monitor the TrainSpam and TrainGood mailboxes.
    But if not Mail.app filters spam but are just used for training, won't spam filtering pause as soon as my computer goes into sleep?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thoresson View Post
    But if not Mail.app filters spam but are just used for training, won't spam filtering pause as soon as my computer goes into sleep?
    Right.

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    I realized that and now have Mail.app and MailMate both running om my Mac. Works perfect.

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