{"id":61,"date":"2007-10-04T11:11:50","date_gmt":"2007-10-04T16:11:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/c-command.com\/blog\/?p=61"},"modified":"2016-05-12T09:36:32","modified_gmt":"2016-05-12T13:36:32","slug":"bouncing-spam-messages","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/c-command.com\/blog\/2007\/10\/04\/bouncing-spam-messages\/","title":{"rendered":"Bouncing Spam Messages"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>From time to time, people ask why SpamSieve doesn\u2019t have a feature to \u201cbounce\u201d spam messages back to the sender. They also ask whether they should use Apple Mail\u2019s <strong>Message \u2023 Bounce<\/strong> command. The thought is that a spammer will stop sending to your address if he thinks that the address was invalid and his message didn\u2019t get through. The short answers are that SpamSieve lacks this feature on purpose and that I do not recommend using Mail\u2019s <strong>Bounce<\/strong> command. More specifically, this sort of bouncing is ineffective or even counter productive for a variety of reasons:<\/p>\r\n<ol>\r\n<li><p><em>Spammers probably don\u2019t care.<\/em> They have lists of thousands or millions of e-mail addresses, and it\u2019s cheap to keep sending messages to the entire list. They may get paid based on the size of their list, no matter whether all the addresses are valid. In any case, it wouldn\u2019t be worth the effort to prune it down.<\/p><\/li>\r\n<li><p><em>You can\u2019t contact them.<\/em> Even if you believe that spammers care, your bounce message probably wouldn\u2019t get to them. Spammers use hijacked machines and forged return addresses, so if you reply to a spam message you\u2019re likely sending your bounce to an invalid address or an innocent bystander.<\/p><\/li>\r\n<li><em>If you could, it might be bad for you.<\/em> There is a narrow window of time in which rejecting a spam message might work. When the mail server is in the process of receiving a message, it\u2019s talking to the sending server and so theoretically it could communicate that the address is invalid. By the time the message has been delivered to your account, downloaded by the mail program on your Mac, and filtered by SpamSieve, this window has long since closed. At this point, if the spammer were listening, he\u2019d already know that the message had been delivered. If you were able to get a bounce back to him, he\u2019d know that it was a fake bounce. The original message must have gotten all through, so he should send you <em>more<\/em> spam.<\/li>\r\n<\/ol>\r\n<p>Since bouncing doesn\u2019t work, it would be a waste of your time and network resources to do it. Including such a feature in SpamSieve would fill out the feature checklist but give the false impression that the feature should be used.<\/p>\r\n<p>Update: See <a href=\"http:\/\/c-command.com\/spamsieve\/help\/does-spamsieve-bounce-s\">this section<\/a> of the SpamSieve manual.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From time to time, people ask why SpamSieve doesn\u2019t have a feature to \u201cbounce\u201d spam messages back to the sender. They also ask whether they should use Apple Mail\u2019s Message \u2023 Bounce command. The thought is that a spammer will stop sending to your address if he thinks that the address was invalid and his [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[2],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/c-command.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/61"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/c-command.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/c-command.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/c-command.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/c-command.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=61"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/c-command.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/61\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":603,"href":"https:\/\/c-command.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/61\/revisions\/603"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/c-command.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=61"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/c-command.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=61"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/c-command.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=61"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}